nsa, all the people with subprime mortgage. when you brought up skip gates before commercial, here is what happens when you are respectable. >> i don't know anyone who lives in a more post racial world than skip gates. the rest of us might not be in one but he is. >> the piece about forest whittaker followed around. you should only follow him if you're going to compliment his rule on the shield. that is the only time to follow that man. it doesn't matter when you do do the right thing. you know what i mean? >> i guess part of -- steve, you and i have talked about this. the stakes are high. the fact i can point out part of white privilege is, in fact, i probably could show up to talk to me kid's teacher wearing whatever and part of my white middle classness would overwhelm my bad clothing and my tattoos or whatever. part of it is stakes are high and we may get held to different behavioral standards because the stakes are high. my worry is the misdirection. then we begin to talk about this instead of -- it's hardest to beat racis